Comments on: The Health 2.0 Fantasy http://33charts.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html medicine. health. (social) media. Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:24:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: online doctor http://33charts.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html#comment-426 online doctor Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:27:51 +0000 http://02d880f.netsolhost.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html#comment-426 <p>healthcare reform is one the most important issue in our society that obama should resolve.</p> healthcare reform is one the most important issue in our society that obama should resolve.

]]> By: Sam Adams http://33charts.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html#comment-425 Sam Adams Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:51:27 +0000 http://02d880f.netsolhost.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html#comment-425 <p>Until there's a significant shift in hospital culture and attitude, Health 2.0 is going to be a slow-boil fantasy.</p> <p><a href="http://1samadams.posterous.com/you-might-be-waiting-a-while-for-your-damn-da" rel="nofollow">http://1samadams.posterous.com/you-might-be-waiting-a-while-for-your-damn-da</a></p> Until there's a significant shift in hospital culture and attitude, Health 2.0 is going to be a slow-boil fantasy.

http://1samadams.posterous.com/you-might-be-waiting-a-while-for-your-damn-da

]]> By: Phil Baumann http://33charts.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html#comment-424 Phil Baumann Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:43:44 +0000 http://02d880f.netsolhost.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html#comment-424 <p>I'd first say that the phrase "Health 2.0" misleads most conversation about the relationship between the Web and health care.</p> <p>There is not 2.0 or 3.0 - there's just health care. The issue in front of us, rather, is understanding the Web as cause *and* effect as related to health care. </p> <p>What I think we need to do is for providers and advocates and everyone else is ask questions:</p> <p>- What is the nature of the Web?</p> <p>- In what ways is the Web disruptive?</p> <p>- How is the Web affecting the way providers get information, collaborate with each other, interact with their patients, etc.?</p> <p>- What are the *conditions* that separate good Crowdsourcing from bad (aka "the hive")?</p> <p>- How do we address the issues of boundaries along the spectrum of various media (which the Web is continually creating)?</p> <p>- What are the properties and possibilities and limits of new media?</p> <p>The questions go on. Unfortunately we've had a significant (and I'd be as bold to say dangerous) shortage of doctors and nurses and life scientists expressing their views, learning about novel online software and leading working communities. </p> <p>Hivemind is definitely a danger - and many proponents of the Free Culture (or as Andrew Keen describes as the Cult of the Amateur) are getting a lot more attention than the professionals. In fact, the voice of famous amateurs has gotten so loud, I wonder if we've already reached Lock-in of Urban Web Philosophy.</p> <p>Jaron Lanier is one whose voice aught to be listened to more - thanks for you recommendation!)</p> <p>@PhilBaumann</p> I'd first say that the phrase "Health 2.0" misleads most conversation about the relationship between the Web and health care.

There is not 2.0 or 3.0 – there's just health care. The issue in front of us, rather, is understanding the Web as cause *and* effect as related to health care.

What I think we need to do is for providers and advocates and everyone else is ask questions:

- What is the nature of the Web?

- In what ways is the Web disruptive?

- How is the Web affecting the way providers get information, collaborate with each other, interact with their patients, etc.?

- What are the *conditions* that separate good Crowdsourcing from bad (aka "the hive")?

- How do we address the issues of boundaries along the spectrum of various media (which the Web is continually creating)?

- What are the properties and possibilities and limits of new media?

The questions go on. Unfortunately we've had a significant (and I'd be as bold to say dangerous) shortage of doctors and nurses and life scientists expressing their views, learning about novel online software and leading working communities.

Hivemind is definitely a danger – and many proponents of the Free Culture (or as Andrew Keen describes as the Cult of the Amateur) are getting a lot more attention than the professionals. In fact, the voice of famous amateurs has gotten so loud, I wonder if we've already reached Lock-in of Urban Web Philosophy.

Jaron Lanier is one whose voice aught to be listened to more – thanks for you recommendation!)

@PhilBaumann

]]> By: Elizabeth Han http://33charts.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html#comment-423 Elizabeth Han Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:12:37 +0000 http://02d880f.netsolhost.com/2010/02/the-health-20-fantasy.html#comment-423 <p>That is pretty depressing. Whether Health 2.0 really works or not is something I always have in the back of my mind. We're probably far away from magical devices, software, websites that "fix" medical issues as if they were so discrete - but I like the conclusion of the Fox article. Like you said, maybe Health 2.0 is more of a process. The effects for individuals are subtle - maybe just tweaks in attitude - and you can't predict where they come from. I bet even the "low-tech, unsexy approaches" are inevitably influenced by media, internet, and Dr. Google and Dr. Wikipedia. Somebody has to be at the vanguard and making an effort at curating and improving the trickle.</p> That is pretty depressing. Whether Health 2.0 really works or not is something I always have in the back of my mind. We're probably far away from magical devices, software, websites that "fix" medical issues as if they were so discrete – but I like the conclusion of the Fox article. Like you said, maybe Health 2.0 is more of a process. The effects for individuals are subtle – maybe just tweaks in attitude – and you can't predict where they come from. I bet even the "low-tech, unsexy approaches" are inevitably influenced by media, internet, and Dr. Google and Dr. Wikipedia. Somebody has to be at the vanguard and making an effort at curating and improving the trickle.

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